Was There a Conspiracy to Kill Charlie Kirk?

[00:00:10] Did a single gunman acting alone, assassinate Charlie Kirk? [00:00:16] Or was there a conspiracy to have him killed? Was Israel involved in it? These are the type of questions that are just setting the Internet on fire right now. And so I want to talk about that today on Crisis Point. Hello, I'm Eric. Sam is your host, editor, chief of Crisis magazine. Okay, so it's been only about a week since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and it shouldn't be surprising that conspiracy theories are starting to float out there and starting to gain traction in many circles, especially on social media. I mean, after all, we live in an era of conspiracy theories. Obviously, the COVID regime and all the lies that were told around Covid and the virus itself, the vaccines and everything like that, that gave rise to a lot of conspiracy theories. We have the general concerns about the deep State. [00:01:08] Is the deep State actually running things in our government? [00:01:12] The Great Reset is one of the great conspiracy theories of our day. We may have conspiracy theories that still exist and are gaining popularity about things like the moon landing. Did America really land on the moon or not? And so, of course, it's not really surprising that we'd have conspiracy theories related to the Charlie Kirk assassination. [00:01:33] I would say there's really two. Two main reasons why conspiracy theories are gaining a lot of popularity and traction in today's culture. The first is simply we've lost trust in our institutions. [00:01:49] We've lost trust in the government. We've lost trust in the media. We've lost trust in our churches. [00:01:56] Basically, anybody who's an authority, we don't trust them. [00:02:02] You know, in the 1950s or the 60s, even if the government said, hey, here's what we're doing, everybody's like, okay, that's great. That's what it is. If the government says, this is who shot jfk, we believe them. If the government says, hey, we just landed on the moon, we believe. We believe them. [00:02:17] But now the government could say the sky is blue, and there'd be a certain percentage of people who would not believe them. Now, don't get me wrong. [00:02:27] I think this is understandable. And I don't trust our institutions. I don't trust the government. I do think that they lie to us. They've been proven to lie to us. Of course they lie to us. I think that's one reason why conspiracy theories thrive is because many of them have. Have turned out to be conspiracy facts, and many of the lies of our institutions have been exposed. [00:02:51] The second reason I think that conspiracy theories are more in vogue right now is social media. It simply is the fuel that keeps the engine running. Because before, in previous generations, before the Internet, before social media really took off, it was difficult to get traction on conspiracy theory because you just couldn't spread it very easily. [00:03:14] And so most people simply didn't hear about it. [00:03:16] Now it's everywhere. I mean, you just log into the Internet, you log into your social media account, and you will see various conspiracy theories, and you can go down the whole rabbit hole. You can ask grok a million questions. You can go down Google, you can do all these searches, you can find out all the details. You can watch videos on YouTube about it. [00:03:36] So really, conspiracy theories are all around us. [00:03:41] So I just want to make it very clear, as Catholics, we should believe in conspiracy theories on some level, at least some of them. [00:03:51] After all, there is a grand conspiracy at work to destroy our souls, and it is led by Satan and all his demons. They are in a conspiracy to destroy us. And this conspiracy has been going on since the fall of Adam and Eve, Adam and Eve. [00:04:12] And so clearly that's a conspiracy. [00:04:16] However, there's also a conspiracy to save us since the fall. We see from the proto evangelium of Genesis 3, from Genesis 3, that God has been working. He has been conspiring with the angels and with the saints, with his followers, to save us. So there are grand conspiracies. [00:04:40] But also, I think it just is ludicrous. It's ridiculous to think that if a conspiracy theory is always false, I mean, I will say, growing up, I very much, I'm not a boomer, I'm a gen Xer, But I did kind of have that, the default against conspiracy theories. I thought it was mostly crackpots. Over time, though, as more and more of them gotten proven true, especially after Covid, I started to realize, okay, there are conspiracy theories that are true and there are conspiracy theories that are false. And it's important as Catholics that we use our reason to distinguish between them, to look at the evidence and kind of see, okay, is it? Are they true? [00:05:29] Now, here's the thing, though. I feel like there's been a move since so many conspiracy theories have been validated as true in recent years. [00:05:37] Now there's a rise of basically any conspiracy theory, no matter how crazy it is. [00:05:43] It's just assumed to be true. And in fact, if you question a conspiracy theory, you're called a boomer. That's the most. That's the most common thing I've seen is like, anytime or somebody disputes a conspiracy theory, you're just written off as a boomer. Well, that's not an argument. It is true that the boomers, the boomer generation, was much more likely not to believe in conspiracy theories. After all, they grew up in the 50s and 60s when institutions were trusted. [00:06:14] And so it's not an argument just to call somebody a boomer if they don't believe in a conspiracy theory, nor is it always based to actually accept every single conspiracy theory. It's just dumb sometimes to accept some conspiracy theories as opposed to others. And so what we need to do, what we should care about as Catholics, we should care about the truth. [00:06:37] What is true. Where does the evidence point us to? [00:06:43] And I mean actual evidence, is there evidence that points us to this? We can reserve judgment. Too oftentimes we don't have all the evidence. And so we just simply say, I don't know, I'm going to hold back instead of jumping into a conspiracy theory. There's also a danger in embracing any and all conspiracy theories. There's the Gnostic Temptation. [00:07:04] The Gnostics. Remember Gnostic, it comes from the Greek word gnosis, which means knowledge, means. And so like basically the idea of we have secret knowledge that other people don't have. You see this very often online with the people really in conspiracy theories. They have a very condescending attitude towards the boomers, as they call them, or you know, any by the useful idiots who don't believe their conspiracy theories. They feel like, okay, I have secret knowledge, others don't. I am superior to them in some way. And this is a danger for Catholics. We don't want to fall into this again. We don't blindly accept every, every official narrative. We should reject many of them. But we also don't blindly follow every conspiracy theory. That I think is the balance we need to have. And I think that's the attitude we need to have going into our analysis of the Charlie Kirk assassination. [00:07:54] Was it. The official narrative is that it was essentially a single. At this point, this is, this is being recorded on September 18, so eight days after the assassination, the official narrative is that a single person fired a single shot that killed Charlie Kirk and that the most likely scenario is he was motivated by hatred of Charlie Kirk because of a radicalization, being a radical leftist, pro transgender things of that nature. [00:08:23] And that, that, that was it. Maybe there was other transgender people involved in it who knew about it ahead of time. But that's essentially the entire narrative is it's one man working, you know, acting alone. [00:08:36] Now, there are some issues with this narrative. [00:08:41] And you see, this is, this is what's being talked about online. [00:08:45] So for example, the idea I saw a number of people challenging, could somebody who wasn't an expert, who wasn't a professional sniper, you know, black ops, some massage, something like that, could they actually make that single shot successfully from 200 yards away? That is one, you know, that's one part of it. Could he have, could just a kid, a 22 year old kid evade capture for over 24 hours? [00:09:13] You know, now just recently, I think yesterday, day before the authorities released a text exchange, a purported text exchange between the killer, the alleged killer and his boyfriend, a trans man who was becoming a woman, that basically laid out a lot of, of what had happened. He was basically admitting to a lot of what, what he had done. But a number of people said it did not sound realistic, it was too clean. It was just like, basically it was like if the authorities themselves had written the message in order to frame him, it didn't sound like a gen zer actually making these, you know, writing text. [00:09:57] And another problem with the narrative is that there's just been a lot of like confusion and mix ups and kind of weird statements by law enforcement. You know, we had two different people who were detained immediately on the day of the assassination. Both were then later released. One was like an old guy who, who now I think they're claiming he is saying that he was doing it to give cover for the assassin because he basically hated Charlie Kirk as well or something like that. He's been arrested now for child porn with some people saying that's pretty convenient that you would do that, you know, so there are definitely some inconsistencies, some issues with the official narrative and people are jumping on that to say it's a conspiracy. And so it honestly comes down basically to saying they killed him. Not one man killed him, but they killed him. But who is they? What are we talking about here? [00:10:50] Well, like I said, one theory is that there's a network of basically violent transgender activists who kind of planned this out or at least had foreknowledge of what the killer was doing, was going to do. And they, and they didn't, they didn't approach authorities about to turn him in. [00:11:13] But the other theory that is basically lighting social media on fire, especially on X, is that Israel was somehow involved, that Israel is the, the, the basically ordered the hit. [00:11:27] They, they helped it happen or something to that effect. That is the what is going on and, and certain people and, and like. Okay, so let's look at, let's look at both these. I'm going to look at the Israel one first. [00:11:39] First of all, this is like the least surprising thing ever that Israel would be blamed for this, because let's be honest, the Jews are blamed for just about everything by a certain segment of our population. [00:11:52] And so of course they are going to be blamed for this. [00:11:57] Now, that does not mean that Jews have never been involved in conspiracies, have never done evil things, and that Israel, the state of modern state of Israel, hasn't done evil things and hasn't conspired to do evil things. [00:12:13] But we just know that there's going to be certain people that are always going to look to Israel, to the Jews as a place to put blame. And we saw this like the first people were coming out with this were people who already are strong critics of Israel. [00:12:29] Now it's gained traction too, because some others, for example, Candace Owens, in particular, Tucker Carlson, some others have kind of suggested said things that perhaps would lead somebody to believe that Israel is involved. The main thing is that they're saying is that Charlie Kirk, who was known as a proponent of Israel, he is a supporter of Israel, that in recent months he had begun to waver. He began to waffle in his opposition to Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel and Israel itself. What Israel is doing Gaza. [00:13:09] And of course, Charlie Kirk's his audience, excuse me, is mostly young people. [00:13:18] And there's no question young people, Gen Z is turning against Israel kind of in massive numbers. [00:13:26] Whereas you have strong support for Israel in the boomer generation, even in the Gen X generation, my generation, it goes down as you get younger. [00:13:36] And so, you know, the idea is that Israel was not happy with the fact that one of their big proponents, Charlie Kirk, was now turning on them, was now willing to criticize him or at least allow criticism. I mean, one point of reference that people are bringing up is a couple months ago he let Dave Smith be part of a debate about Israel at a Turning Point event. And Dave Smith got some support from the Turning Point crowd because Dave Smith is very anti the modern state of Israel. He's a Jew, but he's against what Israel is doing. He's one of the fiercest critics of Israel today, by the way. Dave Smith does not buy the idea that Israel is behind this. [00:14:20] But the narrative is kind of like there's a motive here, that here was a big proponent of this very influential young man who was a big proponent of Israel is now turning on Israel. There's even there was talk that there was a secret meeting back in August where proponents of Israel in the conservative movement really tried to pressure Charlie Kirk to, to stop platforming people like Tucker Carlson, Dave Smith, people like that and really get back on the bandwagon for Israel. [00:14:52] Now here's the thing I want to make very clear about my own opinion of Israel. I think the Israeli government today is evil. I think it's one of the most evil governments in the world. [00:15:03] And now I think most governments are evil. But it really is evil. I don't doubt that it could do something like this. It has the ability and perhaps it has the motive. [00:15:15] But the problem is, is there's simply no evidence. [00:15:20] The fact that Charlie Kirk may have been, and I think this is a very disputed point. If you look at the evidence, he may have been, but he may not have been kind of turning against Israel. [00:15:32] That's not evidence that they killed him. That's not evidence that Israel planned this hit. [00:15:38] That's just simply saying that. I mean, Charlie Kirk annoyed and angered a lot of people. Are we just going to say everybody that was annoyed or motivated, they were behind the killing? That's not enough. You have to have actual evidence that they did something. [00:15:57] And the fact is there is no evidence. [00:16:00] The issues with the killing, you know, the assassination aren't really that strong. For example, the idea that you had to be like a professional in order to do this hit. No, I'm not a gun expert. I'm not a very good shooter. I will admit that I shoot guns and I often miss the target. [00:16:17] However, everything I've read from actual experts is this was not a difficult shot to take. [00:16:24] I'm not saying that I could have done it or just a man on the street could do it, but it wouldn't take. [00:16:29] It doesn't take years and decades of training in order to take this shot. It could be done by a 22 year old kid with relatively minimal training could do this. [00:16:41] Also the idea that somehow, you know, he evaded capture and they could, he could pull this off somehow was, you know, how did he know exactly, you know, where to be and where Charlie Kirk would be and how to plan this, all that stuff. [00:16:54] I'm sorry, and this is sad to say, it's actually not that hard to do what he did. [00:17:02] Remember, Charlie Kirk was not the President United States with Secret Service protection. He was not even a politician with any type of protection. There was no real security at this event. He just showed up at campuses in an open air setting and talked. It's not like there were snipers on the roof, you know, protecting him. And there Were security people going through, checking for guns and things like that? No. Anybody could show up and do whatever they want. [00:17:26] The alleged killer could have planned that this in the morning of he could have said, okay, I hear he's coming to Utah. I'm going to do this. Everything that happened, the official narrative of given what happened, it's all realistic. [00:17:41] It's all realistic. I'm not saying it's impossible that he had help, you know, or anything like that. I'm just simply saying is the official narrative does make sense. It's not like trying to act like it doesn't make sense, like there's all these holes in. It just simply isn't true. [00:18:01] Also, I think that we have to understand the motive of the people pushing the this, the conspiracy theory. [00:18:10] I am anti Israel, but I acknowledge that there are some people anti Israel that they might use this as an opportunity to undermine our support, America's support for Israel. [00:18:24] Now I think America should not support Israel. [00:18:27] That being said, I just don't think there's any evidence in this case that Israel is anything behind it. So what happens is, we know you get clicks if you, if you bring up, I mean, okay, my own thumbnail for this video brings up Israel. And I literally did it for clicks. I will be the first to admit it because I know if I just say it, was there a conspiracy assassinate to kill Charlie Kirk? I'll get some. But if I mention Israel in the thumbnail, more people are going to click on it. So if you clicked on it because you saw that, I gotcha. [00:19:01] Because I want people to be like, oh, let's talk. Oh, maybe Eric, Eric Sammons thinks that Israel is behind this. Oh, he's crazy. Or oh, no, he's finally based or whatever the case may be. [00:19:11] And so talking about this and these people who are, who are associating or insinuating that Israel might have been behind us, they get clicks, which means they get money even if you don't claim it directly. I mean, one of the things I just saw Candace Owens say earlier today, that I never claimed that Israel assassin was behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Well, of course you didn't. What you did Candace Owens. And I'll be honest, I'll just put my cards on table. I'm not a fan. I am a fan of Tucker Carlson, by the way. [00:19:43] I don't think he's always right, but I'm a fan of him. I'm not a fan of Candace Owens. I just think that what she does often. And by the way, just to make it clear, I'm not challenging her faithfulness to the Catholic faith. I'm not saying she's not a good mother or a good wife or anything like that. I'm not doing any of that. I'm simply saying I'm not a fan of her methodology, the way she does things. Because what she does and what she's doing here is she basically saying, look at how disappointed Israel was in Charlie Kirk. Look at how Charlie Kirk was leading towards, you know, being anti Israel and then he was murdered. [00:20:23] Fill in the blanks. She knows how people will fill in the blanks. And the people who do this know how people will fill in the blanks. They will then jump to, oh, Israel killed was behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And if you say. If you challenge her, she can just say, I never said Israel was behind it. But. No, but you talked about how Israel and. And Israel supporters were pressuring Charlie Kirk, and then all of a sudden he was assassinated right after that. Huh. I wonder if there's any connection. [00:20:57] I'm sorry, I just don't like that. I think that is a. [00:21:01] Something Catholics should not engage in and we shouldn't fall for it, because it's just a way that you can kind of protect yourself by not making any actual claim, but leaving in the mind of the reader, of the audience and the listener, oh, maybe it does sound pretty damning. Maybe Israel is behind this. Israel at least has something to do with it. Maybe they're covering up for him. We know how much the government supports Israel. We know how much the deep state loves Israel and is in bed with them. Maybe they're hiding things. Oh, and did you hear. That was like a professional shot. You couldn't do that. I mean, all these things add up into the conspiracy theory without evidence. This is not the same as, like, the COVID days when literally, we saw the lies. I mean, the most simple explanation from COVID was that it was developed in a wet lab in. In. [00:21:54] In China, and that the government helped fund it, the American government helped fund it. That was actually the obvious evidence. And that, of course, eventually came to be revealed as being true. [00:22:04] Although it's possible YouTube's actually going to drop this video because I just said that even though we know it's all true, we just simply. [00:22:12] I just think it's. It's intellectually dishonest. Lazy is probably the better word. Intellectually lazy to kind of make these associations, throw them out there into the world with a huge podcast, and then be like, hey, I'm innocent. I'm just throwing these things out there. You got to have evidence. [00:22:32] I mean, like, I think saying that Israel, what it's doing in Gaza is horrific, it's awful, and I would even claim you could say it's a genocide, because I think there's evidence for that. I think we have the evidence of people being starved to death, being killed in Gaza by Israel, that we can say that. That they're killing innocent women and children. That's not a conspiracy theory. There's. There's evidence behind it. [00:22:59] So I just feel like that is our. [00:23:01] That should be our guiding, you know, a lodestar. Is, is there evidence for it being true or not? Not. Is there associations that might lead to something? Or is there a potential person doesn't like them? Maybe there's this motive. Motive is not enough. You need also the means and which they would have, but also evidence of it actually being done, and we just don't have that. [00:23:25] The other conspiracy theory is a potential, like, transgender network. I think this one's more plausible. I think this one's more plausible because of the fact that we know we. We have evidence that the alleged killer had lived with a trans boyfriend or what, I don't know, a boy who's become a girl, I guess you call boyfriend, and that they're. They're possible that they did have foreknowledge of what had happened. [00:23:56] And, you know, you look at the. The text messaging that was released between the. The alleged killer and his boyfriend, trans boyfriend, and it looks like, yeah, maybe. I mean, that was after the fact that. [00:24:11] Now, for those who say this doesn't sound like it. I saw, literally, as soon as people are like, oh, this does not sound like a Gen Z, er realize every single person is different. [00:24:24] Not everybody is the exact same. Yes, there are commonalities between the way a lot of Gen Zers send text messages. That does not mean necessarily that this one did exactly the same. [00:24:39] They text differently. They're not. You know, this idea that we've lumped everybody into generations now you're a boomer, you're a Gen X, or you're a Gen Z, or you're a millennial, and therefore all these things about you are true, and you cannot get out of that box is simply ridiculous. I mean, think about, for those of us who are like traditional Catholics, are the Gen Zers at your parish, are they really like the other Gen Zers? Yeah, they have some commonalities. But are they exactly like them? Do they dress like every other Gen Zer? Do they Talk like every ginger. Do they watch the same shows every ginger? No. [00:25:13] People can be different. And so, after all, this is a young man who likely killed a young father in cold blood. [00:25:21] He's not exactly like everybody else. [00:25:24] So it is possible. Now, I also think Matt Walsh was throwing out the possibility that this text messaging was staged, but staged by the alleged killer and his boyfriend in order to exonerate the boyfriend, not knowing beforehand what had happened to basically clear his name. [00:25:44] So that's also possible that something like that happened. So there's a conspiracy. We don't really have any evidence for it, but makes some sense. The point is that is, yes, it is possible that the text messaging was staged. That either like, law enforcement made it, made it up, or the killer himself made it up or something like that, but we need more than just simply, oh, this doesn't sound like it's too. And another thing I saw was, you know, say it's too convenient. I saw that people say that it's too clean. Well, you can't have it both ways. Conspiracy theorist. You can't say, on the one hand, okay, the evidence is not. I mean, the. The. The. There's such a mess here. They're saying this, they're saying that, you know, there's too much conflicts of conflicting information, it can't be true. [00:26:32] And then also say, oh, this is too clean. [00:26:35] It just explains everything too easily. It can't be true. [00:26:39] You can't have it both ways, guys. [00:26:43] The truth is things are messy. [00:26:48] In any situation like this. You're going to have some mistakes made by law enforcement. You're going to have mistakes made by the criminals, and this just happens. [00:26:58] Now, the fact is, is that usually my own personal kind of way of looking at this is like an Occam's Razor type of way, which is the simplest, most straightforward explanation is usually the one that's true. Not always, but usually the one is true. If you have to invent all these different, you know, motives and try to insert people into things, try to say, oh, may, how about this angle is not very. Oh, we don't have this. Whatever. [00:27:29] It's easier. Just the simplest. And the simplest is the one that we knew from the beginning. As soon as Charlie Kirk was shot, we all knew who did it. We knew it was somebody who had. Who hated Charlie Kirk and disagreed with his views about the world. Particularly. The main suspicion was about transgenderism. Why? Because we've seen violence related to transgenderism already in the past. We've seen transgender people, people associated with transgenderism. Have these issues. We've seen political violence in the shooting of President Trump, we've seen other, in other shootings. And so it was very much that was our first assumption. Now we didn't have any evidence, so at that point we couldn't say it's true, but now we do. The fact is it's very likely. This is a young man who was raised, it sounds like fine in a conservative home, but was brainwashed, likely in college, likely on Reddit, likely on places like that, on different online forums, brainwashed to think that somebody like Charlie Kirk was the enemy, that he was a fascist, that he wanted to kill transgender people. And if this young man had a transgender lover, you could see why he would consider Charlie Kirk the enemy, not worthy to live and think about it. Also, he's of the age where, when he was in high school, that's when the COVID lockdowns happen. [00:29:02] Do not underestimate the mental strain that put on that generation and that some people might not have, you know, might have cracked, so to speak, it might have really broke them, so to speak. [00:29:18] And so the idea is the idea that a young man, 22 year old man, who had been radicalized to see Charlie Kirk as the enemy, decided to go shoot him and was successful in doing so and evaded capture for about 24 hours or so. [00:29:34] Frankly, that which is the official narrative, that makes sense. There's nothing about that that really is a problem. [00:29:43] I mean, I'm not, and just to be clear, I'm not saying that I'm 100% convinced that's what happened. [00:29:52] I'm just simply saying is until there's evidence, real evidence that points against that narrative, I see no reason not to, not to believe it. Not to simply say, yeah, that's likely exactly what happened. [00:30:06] Now call me a boomer if you want, but I just think it's more a matter of let's look at the truth, let's look at what actually happened, look at the evidence and decide in each individual case whether or not a conspiracy theory is true or not. Some are true, some are not. That's just the reality. [00:30:25] And ultimately, here's the thing, you can't argue with a die hard conspiracy theorist. It's just impossible to do so. All data is taken, or I should say twisted as proof of the theory. [00:30:39] And here's one good example. [00:30:42] Benjamin Netanyahu, whom I just want to make clear, I think is one of the most evil men alive today. [00:30:49] He created a video where he basically said Israel had nothing to do with the Assassination of Charlie Kirk. And what I saw was a bunch of people who were saying, Israel probably is behind saying, oh, this looks very suspicious. That's weird. Why would he have to make a video? Oh, he's shook. He's. He's like, worried they're gonna find out that we're gonna find out that he was behind it. And now he's gotta make this video denying it. [00:31:12] However, I also know if he had not made a video, if he had never addressed it, they would have said, oh, look, he's afraid. He's hiding. He's got something to hide. He's afraid to address the issue. He's afraid to say anything about it. [00:31:25] You just can't win. [00:31:27] And so here I am, one of the most anti Benjamin Netanyahu guys alive, defending him, simply saying it's silly to take every bit of evidence as, like, evidence for what you're saying. Every bit of data and saying, oh, that's evidence for my views. [00:31:44] I mean, for. [00:31:47] I can't believe I'm saying this, but Nick Fuentes is even saying he doesn't think Israel is behind this. And I don't think anybody would call Nick Fuentes the voice of reason or the pro Israeli, you know, camp. [00:32:02] And he's like, no, guys, I don't think this is true. [00:32:05] And so, like I said, you can't argue with a diehard conspiracy theorist. That's why I don't try to online, because no matter what you say, they will twist it to support their theory. [00:32:16] Normal people, though, and that's who I'm trying to address here. We need to be wise as serpents, innocent as doves. [00:32:22] We need to realize there are real conspiracies out there. There are real efforts to destroy our way of life, to destroy Catholicism and the Catholic Church and Christianity, but they're not everywhere. Not every single event in world history is a conspiracy. Not every single one is. Some are and some are not. And I think there's no reason to think that the Charlie Kirk assassination was anything more than a demented young man who had been radicalized by the left to consider Charlie Kirk not worthy of life. This is one of the things I'm really disappointed about. This kind of conservatives going down this path of conspiracy theories about Israel is. [00:33:01] What happened to Charlie Kirk is a great tragedy. [00:33:05] But there is now an opportunity to crush the radical left that's destroying our country. [00:33:13] But if we get distracted and move into these crazy conspiracy theories about Israel and the Jews and things like that, we're going to lose that opportunity. [00:33:21] And I don't think Charlie Kirk would have won that. I mean, Charlie Kirk, his whole thing was against the radical left and are we going and he would want his death? I think, and I can't speak for Charlie Kirk, I didn't know him, but my guess is he would want us to use it to destroy, to take down and eliminate the radical left. And just to be clear, all those words I use, destroy, eliminate. I mean peacefully. [00:33:44] But the idea is that we shut down the anti Catholic, anti Christian forces in our country and we don't go down these rabbit holes that are distractions more than anything. [00:33:56] Like I said, if evidence comes out, actual evidence comes out that implicates somebody other than the loaned a single alleged killer, we can then evaluate. Maybe in six months I'll do a podcast that says, oh yeah, actually, what do you know, it was Israel. I don't think I will because like I said, I don't think there's any evidence for it. But we don't just follow insinuations, we wait for actual evidence. The other thing I think we should do is we should be the most skeptical of theories that support our own worldview. [00:34:33] Because the problem is when we hear a theory that supports our worldview, we're more likely to be gullible about it. We're more likely to accept things as true or without hard fact checking. And so when we see a conspiracy theory, we hear one that goes that supports our worldview. I think that's when we should be the most likely to say, hold on a second, let me look through this more in depth, more carefully before I just jump into it. Because that's our temptation will be to support it. I mean, the truth is, my worldview is such that I do think Israel is capable of great evil. They're committing great evil as we speak in Gaza. [00:35:12] But I don't want to just accuse them of evil without actual proof of it. And I think that's where we are right now. Because you know what that does? It actually makes it so that those who say, oh, you just blame Israel for everything, they're right. Then they're not going to listen to legitimate criticisms like for example, what they're doing in Gaza. Instead people are just going to say you're just anti Semitic, you're just. And because you blame Israel for everything without any evidence, and here's proof of that, you blame them on the Charlie Kirk assassination with no evidence. [00:35:44] When we have mounds of evidence, what they're doing in Gaza, we have zero about what they about in association with Charlie Kirk. We undermine our legitimate criticism of Israel when we just jump on board with every conspiracy theory against him. [00:36:01] Okay, I'm going to leave it there for now. Just like I said, please use your brains, people. [00:36:06] Don't just wildly jump into any conspiracy theory. And you know, when you see even somebody you respect, a podcaster just making insinuations saying, oh, look at this, look at that. What do you think? Don't just buy into it. Use your brains and actually look and see. Is there any proof of what people are saying or even if they're insinuating? [00:36:25] Okay, everybody, obviously pray for family. Charlie Kirk. Pray for Charlie Kirk's soul and pray that we would be able to, this country would be able to escape the evils of radical leftism and defeat it. [00:36:38] Until next time, everybody. God love you.