Pope Leo Contradicts Pope Francis

June 03, 2025 00:35:17
Pope Leo Contradicts Pope Francis
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Pope Leo Contradicts Pope Francis

Jun 03 2025 | 00:35:17

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Did Pope Leo just undercut one of the main themes of the Francis pontificate?
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[00:00:00] Foreign Did Pope Leo just undercut one of the main themes of the Francis pontificate? That's what we'll talk about today on Crisis Point Home Eric Simmons, your host, editor in chief of Crisis magazine. [00:00:23] As always, before we get started, I want to ask you to smash that like button. Subscribe to channel other people know about what we're doing. [00:00:30] Also, you can get all our news articles sent to your email address. Just put your email address in and subscribe to our email [email protected] follow us on social media @crisismag. [00:00:43] Also, I just want to bring up our May fundraiser is now over and I just want to thank every single person who donated, every single person who prayed for us. I really do appreciate it. It really does help us keep going. [00:00:55] You know, we had a goal, which was an aggressive goal of $100,000 and we raised, as of now, 90,000. We're close. We will raise more than that because we still have, we'll get paper checks in and things like that. So we'll bump it up. I don't know if we'll reach a hundred, but I was actually pleased with that because we had a number of issues, including a major technical issue I mentioned last week in which we, a bunch of people were unsubscribed, thousands of people were unsubscribed to our email newsletter. [00:01:22] And so they never got our messages that we had a fundraiser going on. [00:01:26] So I think that I was very happy with that. Now, again, I want to thank everybody who did, who did donate to Crisis magazine. You can always donate. Just go to crisismagazine.com there's a donate link in the upper right, I believe. Just click on that. You can do it at any time. But I appreciate those who did our May campaign and joined it. [00:01:46] Also, I just wanna, before we get going, I want to wish everybody a happy month of the Sacred Heart. [00:01:53] That's right, it's June, which means it's the month of the Sacred Heart. Fly your Sacred Heart flags proudly. I have one. I haven't gotten it out yet, so I need to, I need to get on the stick with that. [00:02:02] This is, of course the month of the Sacred Heart, not the month of a serious sin, but instead the month of the Sacred Heart. So make sure that you keep up your devotions to the Sacred Heart, which are beautiful, wonderful all year round, but particularly this month when we celebrate the Feast of the Sacred Heart. [00:02:22] Last thing I want to mention before we really get into the topic of the day is I got a Notice that my book Moral the Case for Bitcoin, which has a publication date of June 17, is in the warehouse and has actually been shipped to me. In fact, I know that some people who order directly from Sophia Institute have already received their copies of Moral Money, which is my next book, my latest book since four years ago, typically, I mean, I was doing books a little bit more frequently, but I haven't written a book since I started Crisis, being editor in chief of Crisis magazine. So Deadly Indifference, which is right behind me, this will be last time, probably on the podcast. It's right behind me because I'll probably put more money up there next week. I should get it in the next couple days. [00:03:05] So it's been four years since I had a book published, so I'm very excited about this one. I basically lay out what money is, how, why people don't understand it, why our current monetary system is deeply immoral. [00:03:20] It's deeply immoral. And why I believe bitcoin is the proper alternative. Now, just for those gold bugs out there, I don't go against gold. In fact, I say very good things about gold in this book. And I do think gold is far, far superior to our current monetary system of fiat currency. It's much more moral. But I do believe bitcoin is a step beyond gold as far as being moral money. And I lay out all the arguments why in the book. So if you know nothing about bitcoin, you can read this book. If you know a lot about bitcoin, you can read this book. If you know nothing, you learn all the basics. If you know a lot about bitcoin, I think it will lay out to you why it's a different argument than a lot of books on bitcoin. I have a whole shelf right over here, I'm looking at right now of books on bitcoin. And I made sure I didn't want my book to be the same as any of those. [00:04:10] I give different arguments. I really tap into the church's teachings, moral teachings, social teachings. I tap into that to really show why bitcoin is the most moral form of money. So anyway, if you want to get it, pre order it. If you pre order it this week, I will probably be shipping out by the end of the week. It sounds like. [00:04:31] Go to ericsammons.com My website, ericsims.com There'll be an obvious where you can just click on the Moral money link and you can pre order it and I will ship it as soon as I get it. And that will be an Autograph Copy. You can buy it from the publisher, Sophie Institute directly as well. You can buy it from the store that will not be named. [00:04:51] But if you want Autograph Copy, just go to ericsammons.com and order it there. Okay, enough of that. [00:04:57] Now let's get into the real topic at ham. [00:05:01] So, on Sunday, this past Sunday, June 1st, Pope Leo gave a homily for the jubilee for families, children, grandparents, and the elderly. I didn't know that was a thing, but it is. There's a jubilee for the. For families, children, grandparents, and elderly. [00:05:19] And there was a mass for it. And Pope Leo gave a homily at that Mass. [00:05:26] And I read it. I have it right here. It's a short homily, you know, and it's. And I read the whole thing. [00:05:35] And before I get into the real point of this, I just want to note that it's just so refreshing to read Pope Leo's homilies. [00:05:44] And the reason I say this, because I read a lot of Pope Francis homilies, his talks and things like that. In fact, I made it a practice that when a news story would come out that did you know, Pope Francis said this and it was some controversial statement. I'd always go back to the source, the Vatican website, and look at. Okay, let me see the full context. [00:06:05] There were a few times where there was a big uproar over something you said. And when I looked at in context, like, no, really, that's. That's not as big of a deal. That's not really that big of a deal. Not really that problematic. [00:06:19] On the whole, though, most of the time I go back and I realize actually it's worse. [00:06:23] That was just something that happened to me over and over again. I would see a quote from something and people say, oh, look how terrible this is. I'd read the whole context and it'd be worse. To be honest, I felt like that with Amoris Letizia. I didn't read that for years after it came out because I was like, oh, just doesn't sound like something I want to deal with. I finally did read it. [00:06:43] It's actually worse than the footnote. And we'll get into in a minute some of the things that were wrong with it. But the point is, is like, I just got to a point where I was tired of reading papal homilies and things because it just was, you know, Francis often didn't make sense. [00:06:59] He rambled. [00:07:01] He focused too much on worldly issues. [00:07:04] He had weird examples he would give like, that were completely out of touch with reality. I mean, he talked like it was still 1968. [00:07:13] And he'd give these examples which, you know, weren't. Weren't fully true. They just knew they weren't. And sometimes they were inappropriate examples of, like. Of personal conversations. He really shouldn't be revealing what was said. [00:07:26] And it all. Often he would find some way to dig at his perceived enemies, who he like, especially the trads. [00:07:33] It just. It just also. Just wasn't well written, well spoken. I mean, it just didn't flow. It was difficult to read for the brain. [00:07:43] And this was after Pope Benedict, who I found to be a beautiful writer. Beautiful. You know, when I say write, I mean like, when you read what he. What he said at the homily, it was. It made sense, it flowed, it had a point. [00:07:59] All that JP2 was harder than Benedict. JP2 was a little bit of a difficult thinker, I think, to always comprehend what he. The points he was trying to make, the way he got the points. [00:08:12] But Leo is very much more in line with Benedict and JP2 than he is with Francis, just in the style of how he. How he writes and how he speaks, what he says. So in reading this homily, I'm like, okay, what I see is it's organized, it's clear, it's focused on the basics of the faith. I mean, there's nothing in here that you're like, oh, my gosh, this is like the greatest thing I've ever read in the history of Catholic spirituality or doctor or anything like that. No, it's very basic. It's very much just like meat potatoes. He's talking about who God is, that it's good that he wants us to be one, that communion matters, that this is something that is our ultimate goal, is communion with God and therefore with each other. And so communion here on Earth matters. And he's talking about in the context of marriage, of family life and things of that nature. So it really is refreshing to read papal homilies that just make sense, that just are well thought out. [00:09:18] Just stick to the basics of the spirituality of the faith. Not trying to say things, not always trying to comment on whatever the latest issue that he is interested in at the time. I mean, Francis would be like, okay, I gotta make sure I bring climate change to this or whatever every time. [00:09:36] Just be the pastor of souls. And that's what Leo seems to be doing. [00:09:40] But the part that got headlines and the part I want to focus on was the part so he's talking about family life, He's Talking about marriage, he mentions the fact that he loves the fact that several spouses have been recently beatified and canonized, not separately, but as a married couple. And he mentions the most famous example, which is Louis and Zellie Martin, the parents of St. Therese the little Flower. He also mentions another couple examples. But the point is that he's talking about marriage and how the Church really wants to make sure it lifts up the example of married life. [00:10:15] And I think that's very good. The Church tells us that today's world needs the marriage covenant in order to know and accept God's love and to defeat, thanks to its unifying, reconciling power, the forces that break down relationships in society. So it's saying the Church is really for unity, for communion, for being together, whereas the world is trying to break these bonds apart. [00:10:37] So that's kind of leading up to what he says that made the headlines. He said, for this reason, talking about the Church's lifting up the marital covenant with a heart filled with gratitude and hope. [00:10:51] I would remind all married couples that marriage is not an ideal, but the measure of true love between a man and a woman. [00:11:01] A love that is total, faithful and fruitful. [00:11:06] This love makes you one flesh and enables you, in the image of God, to bestow the gift of life. Also, I want to note in the Vatican translation, I don't actually know if he said this in English or not, so I don't know if this is a translation or if it was actually delivered in English. But the point is, in the. In what was posted, it referenced Paul vi humana vitae. When it said the a love that is total, faithful and fruitful. Meaning that's, you know, what he's referencing is, is that. And so I think just the fact that he's referencing humana vitae is obviously a great thing. [00:11:38] I'm sure Francis must have, you know, referenced it as well. But the context of this is very interesting. He says marriage is not an ideal, but the measure of true love between a man and a woman, a love that is total, faithful and fruitful and that bestows the gift of life. [00:11:57] The reason this made headlines, not really in most. I'm talking about headlines on social media. To be honest, I don't know if that many articles are written about it is because this really does contradict a major pillar of the Francis pontificate, Francis's push for mercy, as he always talked about. He always talked about mercy and like, the importance of God's mercy. [00:12:22] And of course, no Catholic is going to argue with the Idea of God being all merciful. We pray and we hope that God is all merciful because we know we need it for our sins. We need God's mercy. We can't survive without God's mercy. Nobody's ever challenged the idea of mercy. The problem was in the Francis pontificate when he talked about mercy. [00:12:46] It was a. It was basically the idea of God looking the other way or being okay with people not living up to the Christian calling. [00:12:59] And he would make it like things like marriage in particular was this ideal. The Church has this ideal of marriage that it's basically proclaimed over the years. But really we need to look at the real life of married couples. They don't always live up to that ideal. So what do we do? And his solution was often we act like that's okay. [00:13:25] We go ahead and give them communion. [00:13:27] We don't care that they're not living up to ideal. Because he made it like it was impossible to live up to the ideal of marriage with one which is total, faithful and fruitful. So if, for example, you dumped your wife of 20 years for a better model, sure, that's not the ideal of marriage, but also at the same time, you're making the best of it in your new relationship, your new quote, unquote, marriage. And so you can go ahead and go to communion even if it scandalizes everybody, even if it's a slap in the face to your actual wife, your first wife, your actual wife, even if it is going explicitly against what John Paul II said, explicitly what, you know, the teaching of St. Paul that you, you bring on condemnation on yourself if you receive the Eucharist unworthily and being in a state of perpetual adultery, that's. That qualifies. [00:14:21] But the point is, is that he talked. Francis would set up this dichotomy of the ideal of the Catholic teaching. [00:14:30] And then the reality and God's mercy is such that we basically look the other way and we say, okay, this is just reality. You can keep living. You don't have to worry about those little details like going to confession and, and, and, and leaving your, your fake wife for your real wife or anything like that. No, you can just keep living the way you're doing. You can keep sleeping with your fake wife instead and receive communion. In fact, Francis also in Amoris Letizia, he complained that we focus too much on procreation when we talk about marriage. He said we often present marriage in such a way that its unit of meaning, its call to grow in love, and its ideal of mutual assistance are overshadowed by an almost exclusive insistence on the duty of procreation. [00:15:19] Now, this is a perfect example of what I was saying earlier about that Francis lived in a different world. He acted like it was 1968 all this time or something like that. [00:15:29] In what world are people insisting on exclusively insisting on the duty of procreation in marriage? [00:15:37] Obviously, it doesn't happen in the Catholic. Outside the Catholic Church, but it hasn't happened in the Catholic Church in decades, in my lifetime. I know that. And I'm an old man at this point. [00:15:48] It simply was. He create these straw men, these situations that just simply didn't exist. Maybe they existed in the 1940s and 50s. I'm not saying one way or the other. Maybe it's true. [00:16:00] What. They obviously don't exist today. There isn't one marriage prep program at any parish or diocese in the world that has an exclusive insistence on the duty of procreation. In fact, the opposite is true. They undermine that. They forget about that. They're embarrassed by that. I mean, my son literally just went through marriage prep, and he's telling me how they. They kind of. The book he got, and I think the person who did the marriage part, the priest, was actually good, but the book was not very good. It basically was almost apologizing for the church's teaching that marriage is made for procreation. So Francis makes up these things. He made up all these things all the time. But the point is, he's saying, we don't want to do this. What does Leo say when Pope Leo talks about marriage? The first thing he says, he's talking about bestowing the gift of life that is procreation. [00:16:52] He's not hesitating to say, yeah, marriage is for procreation. Now, it's also. It makes you one flesh. [00:16:59] So, I mean, he brings up both. He says, a love that makes you one flesh and enables you in the image of God to bestow the gift of life. So he's not shying away from that. He talks about love that is total, faithful and fruitful. Fruitful. We know what that means. Yes, it's spiritually fruitful, but we know it means physically fruitful as well. [00:17:16] And so we see that Leo's definitely taking a different direction than Pope Francis. I mean, this is something, you know, Fiduci's supplicants is the same way. That was. That was like their ideal of marriage is one man and one woman. But for. But for Francis, it's like, well, you know, we will accompany those who aren't living up to ideal, that is in same sex, pseudo fake marriages. And we will give them blessings and you know, but, but here we see that, that, that Leo explicitly states marriage isn't an ideal, meaning we're not talking about like something we can't achieve. It's simply, this is a reality that God gave us from the beginning. Literally from the beginning. Adam and Eve, we have marriage. And what is it? It's a measure of true love. Between what, A man and a woman, in other words. I'm not saying Francis said that a man and a man getting shacked up is an actual marriage, but he basically was allowing people to think that. [00:18:19] Leo says very clearly it's not. But this idea, that's not an ideal, that's very important because marriage, all the Catholic teachings are not ideals. Because when we say an ideal, it basically means something that the vast majority of people cannot achieve. That's what we mean by an ideal. Like the ideal would be that I could dunk a basketball, but I can't. Why? Because I'm short. [00:18:48] I have no vertical leap. And now I'm getting old. I can't dunk. I never was able to dunk a basketball. I got, I got over the rim just a little bit. One, you know, long, long ago. [00:18:58] Well, and most, for most people, they can't dunk a basketball. It's an ideal. Only some can. [00:19:03] That's hogwash when it comes to Catholic teaching. No, Catholic teaching is very high, very lofty. But we also believe God gives us the grace to fulfill it. And if we don't, we can go to confession and try again. [00:19:17] So the whole language used by Francis was very problematic. And it's very good to see Leo is kind of just throwing that outside, you know, throwing that away. [00:19:26] Also, it's important to note that Francis would never have said this. He would never have said this. [00:19:33] It just is not something he would have said. Benedict would have said it. [00:19:37] John Paul II would have said it. I bet Paul VI would have said it. But Francis. No, he would not. I'm not saying he never say anything about good, about marriage. I'm just saying that he would never have used this language. [00:19:50] So I think the question then becomes like, is this a papal contradiction? [00:19:56] Well, is this like basically Leo throwing shade at Francis? [00:20:01] And I think, honestly, it is. In a lot of ways it's one Pope contradicting another. Because here's the thing, this is how it's done in the Church. You don't have one Pope condemning a previous pope. Yes, the grave. Oh, what was that? [00:20:20] The synod where the body of the, of the former Pope was drug up and condemned and all that. I'm not saying it's never happened. What I'm saying, though, is the general way in which the Church has worked for centuries is that Popes don't criticize their predecessors. They simply just don't. [00:20:36] And so you're not going to have Pope Leo or any other person who would have been elected or will be elected, who's just going to come out and condemn Pope Francis. It just won't happen. Stop living in your fantasy world where it might happen. [00:20:51] In fact, I saw just today, Father James Altman posted on X and he said, in all caps, he said, Leo XIV must publicly repudiate and denounce the atheist fraud of a Pope Bergoglio, period. [00:21:07] Then in lowercase, anything less is inadequate and insufficient. His silence will be complicity. Well, I mean, sadly, this is another example. Father Altman has just jumped the shark. He's gone off the rails. [00:21:20] I'm not saying he was treated properly when he first had troubles and all that. Not saying he doesn't say good things bad. I'm just simply saying now he does far more harm than good. And this is an example. This is simply what this is. This is rage bait. This is getting on social media and getting everybody all stirred up and angry. But it does literally no good, only harm, because it just won't happen. And no Pope would have done this if Cardinal Seurat had been elected, if Bishop Schneider had been elected Pope. They would not have done, you know, publicly repudiate and denounce the atheist straw of Pope Bergoglio. They just not how things are done. [00:21:57] It's done quietly. And they want to give the appearance of continuity. They want to give the appearance of continuity even when they're changing things. They want to give the appearance of continuity because that's more stable. That's what the Church is supposed to be more, not supposed to be changing direction with every single Pope. We're not a political, you know, a country with different political parties taking over the presidency or something like that. [00:22:21] We can all wish we had a firebrand in there, somebody who would, you know, burn everything Pope Francis ever said and stuff like that. It just won't happen. [00:22:29] And to be honest, I'm not sure if that would be the best thing, to have a firebrand who comes in and burns everything to do what Father Altman wants. I don't know if that would be the best thing, because I think there'd be a lot of unintended consequences to that. [00:22:43] I'm not saying that a pope can't, shouldn't, like, sometimes just basically directly contradict a previous pope if he was wrong about something. [00:22:52] But just getting up there and condemning, saying it's all garbage or whatever, it's all heretical, that's just. That's not good. [00:22:58] What Leo will do is he will emphasize Francis and quote him when he agrees with him, and he will ignore and even contradict him when he doesn't. This is a perfect example what he said when he said, marriage is not an ideal, but the measure of true love between a man and a woman, a love that is total, faithful and fruitful. That's what popes do. They simply will state what they believe is the proper way of expressing it, the proper way of teaching the Catholic faith. [00:23:30] And they will at times purposefully say things in a way that obviously kind of gives a little bit of a rebuke to maybe a previous pontificate. Francis did this with Benedict. Remember, Francis never came out and said that Benedict was a problem and that he praised Benedict, especially early in his pontificate. He praised him all the time. But he did things that were clearly in contradiction, obviously. Traditionus custodus. If you even read Trucheon's custodes, Francis makes it sound like it's in continuity with some more pontifical, which we all know it wasn't. It was a repudiation, rejection of it, but he made it sound like it was in continuity with it. Now. Well, we're just. Now that we've seen what's happened, we're just going to continue on the path and do this. [00:24:17] So the point is, like, what happens in the church is a vibe shift happens more than an explicit, okay, well, we're going to break here and go in a different direction. I had a subtitle on my. On my screen. My. My thumbnail says a new direction. Think of probably a better thing. Now I think about I should have put a new vibe, because that's really what happens. We have a vibe shift. The vibe shift was very real between Benedict and Francis, wasn't it? And we all felt it. We all knew it. Well, now I think the vibe shift. Shift is already going and it is already happening under Leo than it was under Francis, and that's a good thing. Now, I might not agree with everything about this new vibe shift. I might at times be, you know, wish that Leo did things differently. The point is, though, this is how, if we want really a pope to go in a true different direction than Francis, to move away from a lot of the errors and problems of the Francis Pontificate. This is how it happens. It's through a vibe shift more than anything else. [00:25:17] Now, some people like some Pope spleenors, both the Francis sycophants and the Seti of a Contus, they might be really trouble with this idea of the popes contradicting each other because they had this idea that a Pope is never wrong. And so how could a pope contradict another one? [00:25:37] This is why I think it's dumb to talk about the idea of a Pope's magisterium, like the magisterium of Pope Francis or the Magisterium of JP2 or the Magisterium of Leo the 14th. Now, to be clear, it literally puts this on the Vatican website. So I, I know I'm going against the Vatican's own language here, but I really think it's, it's, it's problematic and mistaken to talk about a certain Pope's magisterium. [00:26:03] What happens is, in real reality is popes contribute to the Church's magisterium through their teachings, through their writings, through their actions, things of that nature. [00:26:13] And because we're not talking about infallible declaration, that's one thing that's just obviously an insertion into the Church's magisterium, period, end of story. But that's not, that's very rarely happens. So normally in their audiences, in their homilies, in their talks and all that stuff, what they say is kind of becomes, it contributes in a very general sense, first of all, to the Church's magisterium. [00:26:38] But what happens is over time, later generations of Catholics, including the hierarchy, they kind of realize, they kind of take some of it and really emphasize that and say, okay, yeah, this is a great teaching we need to emphasize. And others, they just kind of ignore and let it pass away. [00:26:56] In some extreme cases, they might even condemn something that happens very rarely and hasn't really happened in the modern Church, but they just let pass away. So, for example, in 100 years, every jot and tittle of the Francis pontificate is not going to be considered part of the magisterium. [00:27:15] It's only crazies today who act like that. Anything a Pope says, okay, that's part of the magisterium. Now, you have to accept it. That's just not the way it works. The Magisterium is 2000 years old. It is basically the tradition of the Church that the Church has said, okay, this is legitimate. This is what's from Scripture and tradition. This is what we believe this is how we apply it. But it's not a definitive thing where, okay, Pope so and so said this, therefore it's part of the Magisterium. That's just simply not how it works. [00:27:45] In a lot of ways, modern Pope Slainers are a lot like sola scriptor Protestants, because what they do is they take every, like the fundamentalist type that take every word and say, okay, this is the literal, inspired truth. This is what we have to believe. And there's, you know, a lot of truth in that when it comes to sacred Scriptures. But. But that's what they do with papal writing. So Pope Francis said this on this day, in this plane, in the answer to this question that's now defined Catholic truth. [00:28:11] No, it becomes something that the Church then considers over time. Is this something that we accept as part of the Church's magisterium? So, for example, if future popes keep on talking about something Francis talked about, if they keep on teaching it, if they keep on reiterating it, if bishops throughout the world keep doing it and Catholics are all accepting it, yes, then, yes, that becomes part of Magisterium. But already we see with Pope Leo going away from this idea of there's this idea we can't live up to, and so we can just live at a lower level. Already Leo is pivoting away from that. So we can see that isn't going to be part of. There's a good chance, I should say, that, you know, the, the erroneous parts won't be at least, but it's not going to be really part of the Magisterium going forward. [00:28:59] So that, that's just kind of how this works. Now. I will say I'm very excited. There's actually a book, it's an academic book, so probably be expensive, coming out soon by Dr. Michael Cirilla at the Franciscan University of Steubenville that talks about the Magisterium and what it is. This is his study for decades, I think, and so he understands this stuff very well. And he's going to talk about the magisterium, what it is, the different levels of the magisterial teaching, how the Pope interacts with the magisterium, how he's part of it and all that. And so I really look forward to. I know he's writing it right now, so my guess is it won't be published until probably 2026, but something to look out for. Like I said, it's going to be an academic book, but I think it's something that is going to be something that we can really look forward to. And hopefully we'll add to the discussion about what it means, you know, what does the magisterium mean? So anyway, so I'm very hopeful that Pope Leo is already changing the vibe and I think it's a very good thing. Okay, I want to get to some of the live chat. I appreciate people who join the live chat here. On Tuesdays we typically do this and I want to address a few of them. Juan says actions speak louder than words. Pope Leo speaks highly of Pope Francis. His actions rebuke Francis. Pope Francis did the same anti abortion's words, but dismantled JP2 Institute for Life 1 this is a great point. [00:30:16] It's just part of the political process that politicians other than Donald Trump often will speak in kind of a lofty language, even about people they disagree with. They will say things very gently, very nicely. [00:30:28] And so, yes, in this talk, in fact, this homily, he quotes Pope Francis at one point and Angelus addressed. It's a very benign quote. It's like all of us are sons and daughters, but none of us choose to be, chose to be born. I mean, quotes Pope Francis. So he's going to quote him. But what do his actions say? What, what does everything he does say? And I think this is exactly true about what Francis did. He spoke very highly against abortion, but then he did things that really dismantled that teaching, that, that, that strong teaching the Catholic Church against abortion in a lot of his actions. So, okay, James says, I've never heard a sermon address procreation priests avoided. Yeah, you know, actually I didn't even think of that. [00:31:09] Here we have a homily by the Pope and he brings up the fact that marriage is intended. One of the intents of it is to bestow the gift of life. So I think this is a good thing. Maybe, maybe priests will take courage from that. And we'll talk more about how marriage is for. Yes, the unity of man and woman as one flesh, but also the procreation of children. [00:31:35] Is it Zhang? I think it's Zhang. It says Pope Francis's fiducia supplicants already legalized all kinds of extra male relationships. I mean, I think the word legalized isn't exactly the proper term, but it did. It basically undermined the Church's teaching on what marriage truly is. And it kind of gave a wink and a nod to non sacramental unions, non valid unions. So a sinful union. Genius John Kenny says late tuning in. Just informed that Charlotte Bishop extinct team extinction till October. Yes, I just posted that before I got online here, basically they came out and they said that the Bishop of Charlotte, who is, you know, the one who is trying to destroy the Latin Mass in his diocese. Bishop Martin, I talked about this in my last podcast. [00:32:19] It was supposed to happen on July 2nd, I believe, and now it's going to happen on October 2nd. And the reason they gave was, you know, the priest said, hey, we need more time. He said he was originally going to do early July because that's when they do the priest assignment changes. So that would be best. Now he's saying the extension given by the Vatican on their implementation of Traditionis Custodis ends in October. So they'll go ahead and end it there. And he's not going to ask for another extension. Now, it's very possible this will still happen in October, but I think just the fact that it's been extended from July to October, first of all, that's just a beautiful thing, just simply because it means that more Catholics in Charlotte can go to Latin Mass for longer, and those who want to, those communities survive a little bit longer. Also give some time that maybe he will have a change of heart. Maybe somebody at the Vatican will tell him, you overstepped your bounds. Maybe Pope Leo will come out with something that says, I don't think this will happen, but maybe he'll come out with something says, hey, let's stop doing this. So there's a lot of different possibilities. The longer time we have, the longer opportunity, more opportunities for us, a good permanent resolution to happen. So keep praying for the people of the people of Charlotte. [00:33:27] Palermo, Palermo, Palermo. I apologize if I mispronounced your name. I'm sure I did correct. Pope Leo XIV is going to cite what he wants from Pope Francis and then can draw back to Pope Leo XIII and draw a line to Vatican II and in the future. Yeah, exactly. What he will do is he will go. [00:33:48] This is just how the Pope will do it. How all popes would do it is something he wants from Francis. Sure, he will quote that, he will mention that, but if he doesn't want to talk about it or he doesn't really like it, he just will ignore it and talk about something else and go in a different direction so people know, okay, this isn't the direction we're going. [00:34:05] So I really am hopeful. [00:34:07] I'm still hopeful about Pope Leo. Again, I've made it very clear. I have no illusions and I think Pope Leo is going to. Going to be, you know, a Leo the Great or Gregory the Great or something. Like that, or Pius X, something like that. Maybe he will be Holy Spirit can do anything. But I am hopeful that the vibe under Francis was so bad. I mean, it just was so bad. It caused so much division, so much anger, so much just really was was contrary to the gospel in so many ways. [00:34:41] I think a vibe that just goes away from that is a good thing, can't get any worse, right? And I think with with Pope Leo, the vibe is going in the right direction. So I'm still very hopeful and look forward to coming days and months and years with Pope Leo. So. Okay, that's it for now. I appreciate everybody again who commented in the live chat. I I appreciate those who watch the live chat. Until next time, everybody. God love you, Sam.

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