Episode Transcript
[00:00:20] Liberal Cardinal Robert McElroy of San Diego is named the archbishop of Washington, D.C. continuing the pattern of terrible bishops this century for the nation's capital. But good news on other fronts. As Trump's election is certified, Trudeau resigns, and Meta is dismantling their censorship regime. That's going to talk about today on Crisis Point, all Americans, your host, editor in chief of Crisis magazine. Before we get started, you know what to do. Smash that like button.
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[00:01:14] Okay, So I wasn't 100% sure if I was going to be able to do this podcast today because we are buried in about 10 to 12 inches of snow where I live here in Ohio. And I have been shoveling. I do not, My, my snow blower is not powerful enough to do that much. It can only do about maybe five or six inches. So I have to shovel it manually. And I've spent, and I have a very long driveway and I've spent, I share it with some other neighbors when I'm at the end of it. So I have a very long driveway and I've been shoveling for about five hours or five or six hours. Last two days have not made a ton of progress. But then the Good Samaritan, which is my neighbor who has a big snowplow, he actually, that's part of his business. He, he plows like office building, parking lots, stuff like that. He came through, his wife saw me, probably said, hey, you know that old man down at the end of the street, he's about to have a heart attack from shoveling his snow. Go, go take care of it. So he did. So thank you to my neighbor. I, I am, I did survive, at least so far. I did not have a heart attack this year. Okay, so let's get started, though, at the program. What I want to talk about is probably the biggest news in the Catholic Church in America right now. And that is the fact that the San Diego Bishop, Robert McElroy, who is a cardinal, which is weird, that a San Diego bishop would be a cardinal when his, he's a suffrage suffragan bishop when his, the, the bishop above him, which is Gomez of Los Angeles, is not a cardinal. But anyway, he was named the Archbishop of Washington D.C. succeeding Wilton Gregory who succeeded Donald Wuerl, who succeeded Theodore McCarrick. And so that is your list of bishops in Washington D.C. this century. McCarrick, Wuerl, Gregory and now McElroy. It seems like you have to be a terrible progressive bishop in order to be named to Archdiocese of Washington D.C. the truth is, with McElroy, this is not surprising. I think most people thought he would eventually get Washington. I mean, the fact that he was named a cardinal so early, people kind of thought, okay, he's destined for Washington D.C.
[00:03:24] and the truth is he is boringly progressive. I mean, there's nothing about him that really stands out. I mean, you know, the typical progressive Catholics were trying to act like he's this deep intellectual and he's such a pastor and stuff like that. No, every indication is, and if you read anything he's written that is not a brilliant mind there in any way, shape or form and he's not pastoral at all.
[00:03:47] And so it really is just unsurprisingly terrible pick, but it's also just a very boring pick. And I wrote an article at Crisis magazine yesterday about this editor's desk. I whipped it off quick and okay, I have a confession to make.
[00:04:04] Something that is probably my greatest pet peeve happened. I was, I wrote the article, I had to write quickly. I mean, I woke up in the morning yesterday morning and after praying, I saw the news, I was like, I need to write something, get it out. I need to get out before 8:30. Just why doesn't matter. But I had, yeah, I mean at 8:30 and at 9:00 that's when our email goes out. I need to get done before 8:30. And so I wrote it, I check it like many a number of times, make sure I don't have any major mistakes in it. And then right before I hit publish, I changed the title. I changed one word in the title and of course I misspelled that word. I changed the word. I hit publish. Didn't, didn't check it. I had to word diminishment. I spelled it diminishment. I forgot an in in it. And so that's the headline for our email yesterday. Blast. It went out and it was very embarrassing. I, I, somebody email me within like 10 minutes to tell me about it. And I was like, oh my gosh, can't believe I did that. But it's probably good for my humility anyway, so I wrote about my, my main point was the diminishment not diminish, diminishment, the diminishment of the Washington Archdiocese. Here's the reality.
[00:05:13] Certain archdiocese, certain offices have more influence by the, by the very nature of where they are. The New York Archbishop always is going to have more influence in the church and in the world, in the culture, than the Bishop of Dubuque or something like that. That's just the way things are.
[00:05:32] And so when you think about the big Cs in America, obviously New York, obviously Chicago, obviously Los Angeles, although that's been diminished a little bit by the fact that Pope Francis won't make Gomez a Cardinal, obviously Washington D.C. boston, I think Baltimore, St. Louis, few others. But really the big three, I would say, are Chicago, New York and Washington D.C.
[00:05:57] the reality, though, is, think about it for a moment. When has the Archbishop of Washington D.C. this century been influential, made an impact in culture in any way, shape or form that wasn't a scandal? I mean, obviously McCarrick was very influential, but in a terrible way. But after him, I mean, world, I mean, people inside the church know him. But I guarantee you the average man on the street in Washington D.C. while he was archbishop didn't know who he was. Wilton Gregory, even less. So nobody cares what Wilton Gregory thinks. And now I think the same thing is going to happen with McElroy. He's just going to repeat the liberal talking points. He's going to say, oh, I'm against mass deportation, Trump is bad, blah, blah, blah.
[00:06:39] But nobody's going to listen to him. Nobody's going to care. Outside the cult, outside in the culture, he's going to have no impact. The only impact he's going to have is probably a bad impact in, internally, in the archdiocese. And by the way, I lived in the archdiocese of Washington D.C. for 10 years, for the entirety of McCarrick's reign, and in part of worlds. And so there are very many good men and women there and there are very many good priests. Here's the thing people don't realize is that the priesthood, the priests in Washington D.C. are actually, a lot of them are very solid. I mean, everybody knows about Monsignor Pope and some others, but I know a number of priests in Washington D.C. and they're good and holy men who are very much trying to bring their people to heaven. And they're not progressive at all, they're conservative. Generally.
[00:07:27] We need to pray for them because they have to live under this bishop. They have to live under, you know, they had to live under mackerel. I'm sorry, McCarrick Whirl, Gregory and now McElroy. It's a real cross for them. And I don't know, I made a joke on Twitter that I don't know why, why God hates the diocese of Washington D.C. so much he allows this to happen. But I mean, the fact is they've really, they're going through a lot there, so we need to pray for them. But like I said, I think ultimately I forgot, you know, one thing I forgot to do, I forgot to put up my little banner at the bottom. So for those who are watching not listening, I like to put a little banner, what I'm talking about. So McElroy named Washington D.C. archbishop. So anyway, so I really think though ultimately what's going to happen is that McElroy will delight the few progressives. There will be fewer vocations in Washington D.C. they will go bankrupt. They're already have serious financial problems. Here's something people might not know is that back in around 24 or 5, something like that, McCarrick did a huge fundraising, a capital campaign. I remember because they came to my house and they tried to get a lot of money out of me and I gave some and I wish I hadn't now. And the idea was, is to give a financial strong footing to the diocese for a very long time. So this wasn't your typical just, okay, you donate to your parish, the parish gets someone to the diocese. This was the diocese saying, we want to raise, I think it was like 75 or $100 million, something like that.
[00:08:54] We want to raise this to put us in solid financial footing for a very long time, for decades to come. And here's the thing about McCarrick, he's very good at fundraising and they were successful, they raised a ton of money. And so ultimately, you know, that was a successful campaign. However, now they're in financial dire straits from what I understand. I mean, I think the pillar had an article about this. They are really hurt when it comes to finances and I think it's just going to get worse.
[00:09:21] That's only about 20 years after this big capital campaign that was supposed to basically put them on solid footing for a very long time. And it didn't because, well, McCarrick, Werl, Gregory and McElroy, that's why.
[00:09:34] And so what we see is that the Archdiocese of Washington D.C. is just diminishing in its influence, in its importance. And frankly, I think the sad thing is I think there will be, people will flock out of the church, there'll be fewer vocations and and until really things turn around with a solid bishop, it's going to be like that. So, like I said, pray for the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. pray for the good men and women there and especially the good priests there. They don't deserve this. And so they're doing heroic work under some very challenging circumstances.
[00:10:09] I also want to talk about yesterday was January 6th. I want to talk about this because honestly, yesterday was a great day. I know yesterday was the day McElroy was, his appointment was named and it was announced. And that's not, not good for the Catholics of Washington D.C. or in America or anywhere. But a lot of good things happened yesterday on January 6th. First of all, it was the anniversary, the four year anniversary of of course, the January 16th. Coup, riots, insurrection, overthrow of democracy, everything that happened in 2021.
[00:10:40] What I loved about the anniversary was the fact that on, on social media, you saw the progressives whine, saying, oh, don't ever forget the violent insurrection, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Really, they're just crying because the fact that they said this narrative, they pounded the drum on this narrative for the past four years. And yet who's about to be sworn in as President? United States of America. That's right, Donald Trump. So no matter how much they screamed, no matter how much they cried, no matter how much they just tried to make January 6, 2021 a big deal, nobody cared, nobody listened to them. And we all went ahead and just elected Donald Trump anyway or probably because partly because of, because we knew they were all lying. And so I think that was something to celebrate just, just to watch them get all upset yesterday when honestly it was just a matter of, you know, it was a nothing burger four years ago and people knew that what it was, and they knew that it was a political jihad against Trump. They're trying to use that to get him out of public eye. And yet he won anyway, so that was a good thing about yesterday. Second thing that was great about January 6 this year. It was literally the day that Kamala Harris had to certify her loss for President, United States of America. Technically, I guess she's certifying the win for Donald Trump. But you got to watch a clip, if you haven't seen it yet, of just her, her doing this, how she and Mike Johnson, who I don't, not a fan of, but Mike Johnson, speaker of the House, is behind her smirking the whole time, which I thought was kind of funny, but that was great too. Just seeing how they had to certify. And I know they were all Saying, gloating. The Democrats were gloating. Hey, you know, we didn't have to try to overthrow the government when the election didn't go our way.
[00:12:28] But here's the thing. If what they were saying was true for the past few years, that this was literally a fascist, literally Hitler taking over, and it was a. It was going to destroy our democracy, then the fact that they didn't fight back here, I mean, just says they're accessories to fascism, they're accessory to Hitler. I mean, which is it going to be? If he really was all the things you said, he was this great threat to democracy, then you can't brag about the fact that you're allowing him to take office without a fight here. And so ultimately, that was a great thing about yesterday. And then finally, another great thing about yesterday was Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, announced his resignation. Now, I have no idea about politics in Canada. I don't try to know. I mean, there's only so much you can know. Maybe I'll get Candy hall here on here someday and he can tell us about it. But I don't know what this means for the future. Like, if the next prime minister is going to be good, he's going to be terrible. What's going to happen if Canada's going to become the 51st state like Trump wants it to? I don't know. I just know that Justin Trudeau was one of the worst leaders when it came in so many ways, but. But specifically when it came to Covid. When it came to Covid, what he did was, I mean, he was like one of the worst world leaders. And to see him ousted on the same day that Donald Trump is certified and on January 6, the anniversary of when supposedly there's this great insurrection in America, I just thought that was a beautiful thing. That was like there was some.
[00:13:58] All that being connected, I thought was very beautiful. So I think that's something we should be very happy about as well, is that Justin Trudeau is out of office, even if, like I said, I don't know what the next guy's going to be. But the fact is he's terrible and he's gone. So that's a good thing.
[00:14:15] Next, I want to talk about Belgian D baptisms. Now, of course, we know as Catholics, there is no such thing as a debaptism. However, there was an article in the Pillar that. Let me try to pull it up here for you real quick. Let me see if I can do this. Okay.
[00:14:33] Yes.
[00:14:35] Magical technology here. Record number of Belgians request Catholic disaffiliation. More than 14,000 people requested to be removed from the baptismal registers of the Catholic Church in Belgium last year, a number that almost triples the previous record, according to an annual report from the Belgian bishops. Okay, so basically, let me get this out here. What this story is saying is that in 2023, 14,251 people made the request to be removed from the baptismal registers. And basically what the Church does is it just marks a note in their baptismal record. They did that in the 1990s, and they call it deep baptisms. As we know, baptism is a permanent mark. And. And it cannot be every race. You have this for all eternity when you're baptized. But it's an indicator that people are. These people are not just simply not practicing the faith anymore. They're making an effort to actually say, no, I do not want to be considered Catholic. I don't even want to be considered baptized anymore. I want to completely be disaffiliated from the Catholic Church. This is a significant thing. Now, 14,251 people doesn't sound like a ton, maybe, but the number usually is around 1500 people a year. And the peak previously was in 2021 was 5237, so almost triple the previous record and about 10 times the normal number of people who request this. Now, there's a number of reasons for this.
[00:16:10] Partly, there's been abuse scandals in that country as well. Unfortunately. There's also.
[00:16:16] There's other. Other reasons as well. There was a documentary that ran about those abuse cases in the country last year, and so it prompted national outrage. Now, here's the numbers. There's 6 million Catholics in Belgium, but actually fewer than 175,000 regularly attend Mass in 2022.
[00:16:35] So 43,227 were baptized. So that 43,000 were baptized. But 14,000, almost 15,000, said, no, take away my baptism, so to speak. I mean, there's no way to sugarcoat this and make this like it's somehow anything other than just a terrible thing for the Church in Belgium. Belgium. But really, it's Western Europe. I mean, that's the thing. I think we need to. What we can see from this is that the reality is the cradle of Catholicism, which is Western Europe, that's the cradle. That is where Western Europe. That's where Catholicism really grew and was nourished, was in Western Europe. France, you know, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Belgium, places like that. Germany, even before the Reformation. Of course, this is where Catholicism really was, was nurtured and fostered and grew and then went out to the rest of the world. But what we've seen is over the past few decades is in Western Europe, Catholicism has just crashed and burned. It simply has no, very little, if any influence. We in America see what's going on to the Catholic Church here and we lament how little influence, how much less influence we have on our culture and how people are leaving the church. And that's something we should limit. It's a terrible thing. However, we're nothing compared to Western Europe. I mean, there they are just. I mean, the churches are museums. We are far more faithful as far as Catholicism goes in this country, in America than they are over in Western Europe.
[00:18:14] And this matters for the Catholic Church because the fact is, not only is Western Europe the cradle of Catholicism, it has historically been the most influential demographic in Catholicism. Well, think about papal elections. Most of your bishops, holy, you know, everybody, the cardinals, the people working the back end, they mostly come from Western Europe, Italy particularly. But in other parts of France and other places in Western Europe, they have a huge, an outsized influence over the Church. And it's deserved because that's where, like I said, Catholicism really developed. It's not unfair that Italy has more cardinals than. Even though it's smaller than some country like China or Japan or something like that, or even America.
[00:18:56] It's well deserved. The truth is though, now that influence is waning radically and there's still the influence that remains is simply a remnant of the past that's going away.
[00:19:10] And so what's going to happen is happening in Belgium and other places where this is happening. What's going to happen is the influence of Western Europe on the universal church will become less and less. It already has, but even more so.
[00:19:25] This is, and this is, I think, by the way, I say this sadly, I think that's a good thing. Obviously, I don't think it's a good thing that Western Europe is losing, has lost the faith, really. But I think it's a good thing that Western European concerns aren't as big of a deal in guiding the Church than they used to be. And this is where, like for example, Fiducia's supplicants, when Cardinal Fernandez, you know, said let's bless same sex marriages in Western Europe, it was celebrated. However, in much of the rest of the world it was, especially Africa, it was rejected. Because the fact is the priorities for most of the rest of the world are not the same as the priorities in Western Europe. Western Europe Catholic intellectuals and leaders, they're obsessed with the pelvic issues. They're obsessed with, okay, trans rights and homosexual marriage and, and women, you know, being deacons and priests and things like that.
[00:20:25] The average Catholic in South America, in Africa, in Asia, they don't care. They don't care about those things. They care about much more important things.
[00:20:36] So I think it's a good thing that the influence of Western Europeans is waning on the Church. I don't think, like I said, it's a good thing that Western Europe is dying in the faith.
[00:20:47] But I think that's, overall, that's going to be a positive, net positive. And I think that that's going to matter especially for future popes. I think we're going to see more and more. Obviously Pope Francis is not from Western Europe, but he's really Western European and kind of his outlook in the world, you know, because of his, his background in Argentina and kind of where he comes from, stuff like that. I think ultimately he has a Western European outlook. But I think there's a decent chance we're going to have a Pope soon that not only isn't from Western Europe, but doesn't have a Western European outlook. John Paul ii, of course, is from Eastern Europe and that, and you could tell that was a, it was a little bit different. He did not have quite the outlook as the Western Europeans did. That's why so many people hated him. So many other Catholics didn't, you know, rejected his, his, his teachings and what he said and did because he came from Poland, from Eastern Europe. I think we're going to have, though I wouldn't be surprised if it's the next Pope. But definitely soon we're gonna have a Pope that's not even connected to Europe psychologically, you know, and kind of sociologically. And I think that's gonna be a very good thing. You know, a Pope from maybe the Middle east or from Africa or from Asia, I think could really be a change. I think it'd be really different for us Americans because we're, we kind of get caught up in those issues too.
[00:22:02] Imagine a Pope who just doesn't care about something like women, deacons, doesn't care about same sex marriage, but cares about very different things. I think that would be something that'd be good for, for the Catholic Church.
[00:22:15] Okay, next story, the same. The Archbishop of San Antonio blames Trump for violence. Okay, so the Archbishop of San Antonio. Let me pull up this tweet, actually Archbishop Gustavo. I think that's how you pronounce his name. He tweeted on January 2nd. Okay. He's talking about the New Orleans tragedy, the attack, and also, I assume, the. The cybertruc on the Trump building. Why these tragedies? Because elect president's words. He means the president elect. He has very kind of broken kind of English when he. When he tweets. I don't know if English is not his first language, but he's not very good at writing. I know that because elect President elect president's words. In the last few years, if we trigger actions, what do we want? If the leadership speak about hate, then we'll have hate. Hate. If we have actions of love, we'll love. Some people do not want to love. They have a problem. Big. I guess it goes on. Okay, first of all, as an editor, that was painful to read because it's just such a. Terribly written grammatically in so many ways.
[00:23:19] But he's blaming Trump for the violence in New Orleans and the violence, the cybertruck attack and other violence. He's blaming Trump for it. Another tweet he has, he says the killing today is the result of words and actions that leaders have demonstrated in our recent history. He's talking about Trump, which we know from his other tweets. We should not blame others. We need to take responsibility. We need civil discourse and lots of humility and charity. This tweet just. Just cracked me up. He literally blames President Trump and in the next sentence says we should not blame others. Well, your excellency, why don't you blame yourself? Then why are you blaming Trump? The fact is, the reality is, what we need to do is blame the people who do it.
[00:24:00] If you drive a truck into a. Crowded.
[00:24:04] Into a crowd, it's your fault. If you blow up a cybertruck, it's your fault. Now, okay, I know there are some theories that perhaps especially the cybertruck guy, he didn't actually do it. He's victim. Let's just say whoever did it, that's who you blame.
[00:24:21] You don't blame President Trump when the reality is it just shows how triggered they are. President Trump does more for world peace than Archbishop Gustavo or anybody else around does. I mean, he's the one who's trying to stop the war in Ukraine, trying to stop the violence in the Middle East. Not quite as well. He doesn't want war, but he has some mean tweets.
[00:24:45] He has some mean tweets. We can't have that. I mean, it's just ridiculous. The fact that an archbishop would think that it's Trump's fault. And again, these people who did this were not Trump supporters. They weren't doing it for Trump. They're, in fact, diametrically opposed to the MAGA movement, and yet they're doing this.
[00:25:04] And so I think it just shows a definite imbalance, a definite. It really does kind of touch upon something that Church Militant for years before they went under talked about was the church of nice.
[00:25:18] And I think that's a valid point, that the emphasis in the church for a very long time among church leaders is being nice. But we are nice at the expense of the truth, at the expense of certain evils, allowing certain evils, all because we've put being nice number one. The fact is, being nice is important. You should be nice, but it's not the most important thing. In the hierarchy of values and the hierarchy of virtues. Being nice isn't even in the top 10, probably.
[00:25:50] Like I said, in general, you should be nice. You meet someone in the street, you should be nice to them. You talk to somebody after Mass, you should be nice to them that you talk to the cashier when you're, when you're checking out, you should be nice to them. Unless it's a self checkout, then that'd be kind of weird. But the idea is like, that's not the most. And Trump is not, on his tweets, at least, is not nice. He says things that aren't nice. But what matters more is reality with truth, with things like, okay, Joe Biden, for example, often they would call him nice. Now he did things he did. You know, he didn't always. He wasn't always nice. What they mean by that is just how he talked. The fact is, though, he supports just unlimited abortion on demand, the killing of innocent babies. He has no problem with that. He wants all the gays to be married. He wants trans rights and all this crap. He wants to undermine all the teachings of Catholic Church, essentially. But sometimes he's nice. He's never mean on Twitter.
[00:26:48] And so this is just a symptom. Archbishop Gustavo's, you know, blaming Trump for the New Orleans violence is just a symptom of this inversion of the hierarchy of virtues. The truth is what matters most. That's what matters. And if you can share the truth with and be nice, do it. But if sharing the truth sometimes offends somebody and makes it looks like you're not nice, well, then you just have to. You have to tell the truth anyway. That's just the reality. And so I also think it's odd that you Know, Gustavo can talk about blame the elect president. The president elects words for this. He can say all these nasty things about him, but I don't think is it going to happen to him. I mean, remember, it was tweeting that got Bishop Strickland ousted from Tyler Is. And actually it was kind of tweeting that got the Bishop of Knoxville, Tennessee. I can't remember his name now. Stick. I think it was got him ousted, although he had a lot of other problems.
[00:27:48] But will this guy get ousted? Probably not. He'll probably end up. I don't think he'll really get moved anywhere else, but you know, that's not going to happen.
[00:27:57] Okay, so last story. And that's my white pill of the week. I like to do these White pill of the week. Meta Ending censorship regime. Meta, of course, is the company that oversees Facebook and Instagram. It's Mark Zuckerberg's empire. He had a very interesting video that came out, shared it on X and I encourage you to go see it. But he basically said, we're going get to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring free expression on our platforms. More specifically, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X starting in the US and this is great news. As everybody knows, all the social media outlets during COVID were awful and they censored truth. What we know now is truth. They censored anything that the government did not allow. We know also the government was behind all this. They basically, if you went against the government narrative, you were censored, you were were kicked off of Twitter, you were shadow banned, your tweets were deleted, whatever the case may be.
[00:28:59] And we know now that it was directed towards anybody who went against the government narrative. And often they were telling the truth, particularly about COVID Now, fortunately, Elon took over X, took over Twitter, called it X them, and he instituted a new regime instead of having fact checkers that would tell you, okay, we're going to delete these things. Instead, what he did was say we're going to have a community notes where the community could make contributions. And honestly, it's a great system. I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm not saying it's always right. I'm not saying Elon always follows it either. What I am saying though, is it really does improve the platform because now if somebody makes a statement that's not true, simply what will happen is a community note will be added to it. Relatively quickly. I've seen this happen to conservative people. I've seen it happen to liberal people. See, it happened to many people, and it's a good thing. I don't think I've been community noted yet. I should try that. I should try to say something really outlandish and untrue sometime, just see if I get a community note for it. But the point is, it's a good system, not perfect. It's far better than the old system. So the fact that Facebook and Instagram are going to go to that system, I think is a great thing. Now, I know we can be very skeptical about Mark Zuckerberg. Is he really a true believer now? Is he really kind of come over to our side, so to speak, free expression, things like that? Or is it just basically he put his finger up to the wind and said, okay, Trump won. This is the way the direction is going. I need to get behind this. I mean, also, by the way, Dana White, who's the CEO of ufc, the Fighting, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, whatever it's called, who is a big Trump supporter, he was just named to the board of Meta as well. That's another huge sign. I think ultimately it doesn't matter that much is Zuckerberg is a true believer or not. I think what matters is it's a win. I mean, here's the thing. I see too many Catholics who don't know how to take a w any good news. What they do is say, well, actually, what this means is it's just like, it just really means that this is. That it's some negative thing. The fact is, is like, we're not going to win overnight the whole war overnight. It's all of a sudden like, tomorrow everybody's gonna be Catholic. We're gonna have Catholic kingdoms that we all are part of. That's just not gonna happen. What has to happen is small victories along the way, and when those small victories happen, we should celebrate them. Doesn't mean they're the final victory. Doesn't mean all of a sudden, now we've won, or we need to trust Mark Zuckerberg completely or think that Facebook is the greatest social media site and some conservative thing or Catholic thing like that. No, it just simply means here's a whim. Facebook, it sounds like, will be better tomorrow than it was yesterday. Sounds like it will be better in the future than it was in the past. And so that means more people can speak out the truth and true things will be promoted more, and lies will be less promoted. That's a Good thing that's a white pill. I think we should take the victory and be happy about it. So I just think this is something like I said, we should be very excited about and celebrate even if we do have to do a little trust but verify situation. Okay, finally.
[00:32:04] I forgot to mention this beginning again. I think I always forget this. I really appreciate people who join the live chat, particularly on YouTube. You can join on YouTube or Facebook, I think either one comments will appear for us but particularly YouTube. If you join the live chat, make your comment, we'll be able to see it and we'll try, I'll try to respond to some of them at the end here. I try to do that. I'm trying to do that more and more. So we have a few comments. I appreciate by the way everybody who does join in on the live chat. Okay so first of all we have. I gotta take off my glasses to read close up. So Zesus petals, whatever that means. Early on folks in the know said McElroy was offered Boston but declined. This explains it. Yeah, I can see that that's true. Boston would have been a good place for him but honestly I think DC was always where he was destined to go because DC is very, is obviously the political one and McElroy is known as very political. He's very politically in tune with the progressive agenda. He's going to be. He's going to speak out against Trump and do all that. So I do think that Washington D.C. was kind of always his destination. Maybe he offered of Boston. I don't know about that.
[00:33:07] James says Texas bishops are mostly pathetic, liberal, weak need. Obviously we're talking about the San Diego. I'm sorry the San Antonio Archbishop. It is unfortunate you think Texas where let's be honest, things are a lot better in a lot of parts of our country would have some solid bishops. Obviously the Bishop of Tyler, Texas, the former bishop of Tyler, Texas was not one of those liberal weak kneed bishops. He was one of the best. Bishop Strickland, that is so Texas. You did have one of the best bishops but unfortunately he's no longer a bishop there.
[00:33:39] Mark says zoo zoos watch It's a Wonderful Life. Okay, I don't know the reference there so I'll just say watch it. I mean I will recommend watching It's a Wonderful Life. It's a great, it's a great movie. It's one of the best in fact. Okay, Francis Obi says I heard somewhere that McKnight Bishop was the settled for Washington. Then it was McElroy they went ahead with. Okay, maybe that's true. I, Like I said, I personally think. We don't know. It's always speculation. I personally think, though, it was always going to be McElroy. I think when he was made cardinal a few years ago, that was a signal. Okay, he's going to take over Washington, D.C. because like I said, it's so weird to make San Diego, the San Diego bishop, a cardinal. We don't even make his superior bishop, bishop, archbishop, Los Angeles, the cardinal or even in general, why you'd make a San Diego bishop cardinal. I think that was a sign. He. We knew first of all he'd be going to a bigger diocese and I think it was always D.C. i think that was, that was the plan all along. But again, we don't know one way or the other. Okay, well, thank you again for people who joined the live chat and commented. I really appreciate it. And again, obviously, McElroy being appointed Archbishop of D.C. is not a good thing. Other bad things in the world. But let's take our victories. We've had some big victories. I feel like this week.
[00:34:56] Let's take them and embrace them and celebrate them and move on and keep fighting. Okay, everybody, until next time.